*'''Certain predators are observed using the chassis of the [[Rhino#MkIb_Mars_Pattern| MkIb Mars Pattern Rhino]]*[[Phaeton Pattern Mk.IIIb/c''']]: Older variant An older pattern based on Mk.I the [[Rhino#MkIb_Mars_Pattern| MkIb Mars Pattern Rhino]] chassis, to the point it shares a few of its drawbacks, they originate from Forge World [[Phaeton]] but are produced in many forges across the Imperium. Distinctive Many have seen battle for hundreds of years and are kept as honoured chapter relics, fielded as needed in a Chapter's armoury. They are noted for their distinct square square section turret which is mounted on the forward hull as opposed to center.They remain the second most commonly fielded pattern, next to the Mk.IVb{{Fn|1d}}

Predator2nd.jpg|[[Space Wolves]] Mk.IIIc Predator, visibly built on the chassis of a [[Rhino#MkIb_Mars_Pattern| MkIb Mars Pattern PredatorRhino]]ChaosPredator2nd.jpg|This [[Chaos Space Marine]]s Predator uses the chassis of a [[Rhino#MkIb_Mars_Pattern| MkIb Mars Pattern Rhino]] and the turret of a '''Phaeton Pattern Mk.IIIc Pattern PredatorIIIb/c'''{{Fn|9}}