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Proposal for article clean up/changes
:Unless you have a source to correct this there's no point in discussing. --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] 08:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
== Strengthening the Article ==
Hi, I'm new to Lexicanum but I'd like to start contributing by cleaning up (as I see it anyways) the Ultramarines article. Before I make any changes, I'll post the ideas here so that they can be debated.
Known Descendants - Regarding Iron Snakes: I've read Brotherhood of the Snake, and the novel never explicitly states that Iron Snakes are an Ultramarines successor chapter. I feel the Iron Snakes article addresses this more accurately: "Although they pay respect to Roboute Guilliman, it is uncertain if they are an Ultramarine descendant, particularly as they are a non-Codex chapter." I'd like to replace Iron Snakes with Howling Griffons (which are explicity stated as being an Ultramarines successor chapter in the novel Chapter War).
Fleet Disposition - Regarding: "A Battlefleet Gothic article indicates that there are at least five Battle Barges, but the article is inaccurate on several other points and so has been ignored." I didn't find the Battlefleet Gothic article any more inaccurate than GW's normal level of contradictory fluff. Furthermore, the BFG article makes a good case for why the Ultramarines would have more than the standard compliment of ships (Ultramar is a larger realm than most space marine chapters have sovereignty over.) I'd like to list the ships in the Battlefleet Gothic article as a separate list. Also, the latest Tyranid Codex reports Battlebarge Caesar as being destroyed by Hive Fleet Behemoth.
The Horus Heresy - Regarding: "When Horus finally declared his treachery against the Emperor, he had ordered the Ultramarines Legion to go to the Veridan System in Segmentum Tempestus far to the galactic south..." This should be re-worded--sounds like Horus ordered the Ultramarines to the galactic south after publicly declaring his treachery.
Creation of the Codex - Regarding: "...while Guillman and his supporters (White Scars Primarch Jaghatai Khan and Raven Guard Primarch Corax) went as far as to fire upon the Imperial Fists labeling them as heretics." This is misleading as it was the Imperial Navy which fired on the Imperial Fists.
Company Disposition - Regarding: "...Captain Antilochus, Chief of Recruits. Evidence in "How To Paint Space Marines" suggests a Captain Abraxxon may have succeeded Antilochus as Tenth Captain." This isn't so much evidence as it is someone making up a name to label a photographed miniature. I won't eradicate mention of Captain Abraxxon, but I'd like to use less leading language.
--[[User:Tranc|Tranc]] 22:46, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
