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*At no point during the [[War of the Beast]] is Rogal Dorn spoken of by the Imperial Fists as though he were present and in command of the Imperial Fists, however there is also no mention of his hand being in possession of the Imperial Fists.{{Fn|8}} During that war, Vulkan commended [[Koorland]] that his actions honoured Rogal Dorn and that he "will tell him so."{{fn|8}} If Dorn's Death was indeed the [[2nd Black Crusade]] the Imperial Fists should not yet have had possession of his hand.{{fn|41}} This may be further corroborated by Koorland not even considering the Hand of Dorn in response to Vulkan's words.

**It is feasible that Rogal Dorn, like Vulkan himself, vanished from Imperial public sight shortly after Corax and the [[Great Scouring]], remaining in hiding and only surfacing to lead the attack on the unspecified Black Crusade.{{Fn|8}} With the War of the Beast ending in 546.[[M32]]{{fn|52}}, the closest Black Crusade (and the only one of Abaddon's to occur in the millennium) to occur after it would be the [[2nd Black Crusade]] in 597.[[M32]], approximately 50 years later.{{Fn|41}} The 2nd Black Crusade was the only one which occurred in [[M32]] and did involve an attack through the Cadian Gate. However, it would conflict with the account of Index Astartes II, it also involved an attack on Cadia.

====If Dorn Died during or after M36====