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The blank is typically made to follow their master [Inquisition] around like a tourist, protecting their master from witchcraft and sorcery with their mere proximity.[Needs Citation]
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Notes: Introduced in 'Revision as of 17:15, 6 February 2014', which replaced a text describing the use of Distaff. I am not confident in whether one can sum up the function of Distaff and project it upon the whole of Inquisition in the manner shown above, I'm also not confident enough to deny this datum its factual justification. --Brownpandanotgrizzly (talk) 03:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Discussion #1
There needs to be some kind of connection made between these and those with the Pariah gene, as they are very similar. I suggest a merging of the two pages and then splitting it down the middle between the Pariah Gene and the Blanks. SanchiTachi 05:10, 28 June 2007 (CEST)
Edited page to distinguish between Blanks and full Pariahs, Added Titles for "Pariahs", "Blanks", and "Notable Blanks". Trimmed the portion about non-human pariahs for speculation and falsehood.Dedwrekka 6:20 27 January 2008
Edited to reflect that Eisenhorn's Distaff (and Alizabeth Bequin) were a collection of untouchables, not pariahs, per the Eisenhorn trilogy. Dakkadakka 8:24 18 May 2008
5th Edition Necrons
If my understanding of the changes to the lore brought on by 5th edition Necrons is correct, it sounds like, because the Deceiver was shattered, he never had the chance to give the pariah gene to humanity, which would remove Blanks entirely (and account for the fact that Necrons no longer have the Pariah unit, which in turn also casts ambiguity on the Culexus Temple). Now, that's not to say GW will whip up something later on, but I wonder if it might merit a note somewhere here. I know it's all speculation upon conjecture, and maybe someone with the codex can give a more firm answer, but it just seems worth bringing up here on the talk page at the very least. Tanooki1432 20:11, 12 January 2012 (CET)
- Well, considering that the Pariahs were already in the background before the Necrons were major players in the galaxy, and before the C'tan were referenced anywhere but in the name of C'tan phase weapons (which was apparently just a fancy name before the C'tan themselves were introduced), I think they'll do fine without that bit of fluff anyway. And who's to say that the Necrons didn't introduce the Pariah gene? Until GW says anything on the matter, we can't really say anything for sure, but it's still possible that they were involved somehow. --The Warmaster 13:21, 3 June 2012 (CEST)
Same thing?
Going off the descriptions of Culexus Assassins in the old Codex: Asssassins, the Eisenhorn trilogy, a number of books in the Horus Heresy series, and what I've read of Abnett's Pariah, there's more and more evidence that the only differences between Pariahs and Blanks are the author's preferred terminology (or the trend in the canon at the time - the term "Pariah" seems to largely be a more recent adoption resulting from the related unit in Codex: Necrons), and the author's individual interpretation of the phenomenon. After all, Culexus Assassins and Alizabeth Bequin have, as of 2012, been described as Pariahs (this seems to be preferred in the book Pariah) and Blanks, and the different descriptions of the two have often been used interchangeably.
It looks more like an issue of the phenomenon being somewhat ill-defined than anything else, at least to me. In any case, it could be worth making a note in the article itself that the Blank/Pariah distinction might just be an artifact of authors' inconsistencies, at least until GW comes out and gives a definitive answer (which, for all I know, may have been provided later in Pariah). --The Warmaster 11:02, 2 December 2012 (CET)
- One problem is that the current page lacks proper citations, so it is very difficult to check what in the article is properly sourced and what is just speculation from the articles author/s. The page as it exists now probably needs either a total re-write or at the least to have its citations brought up to standards. I'd say that dividing the page into a section on Pariahs and a section on blanks is rather confusing as the two sections don't really clearly define any real diffenrence between the two. The Lemur 15:37, 2 December 2012 (CET)
- Also, I'd like to see a source for the line "There are no known instances of Pariahs among the nonhuman races of the Galaxy. " as Solitaires are described as souless and there are certainly "blank" species, like the Tau, who don't have a warp presence (not exactly the same as being a blank/untouchable, I'll admit). The Lemur 15:41, 2 December 2012 (CET)
- It's getting a bit off-topic, but Tau do actually have a warp presence - it's just been described as negligible to the point where Chaos tends to ignore them. That said, I believe there was a case in Fire Warrior (Novel) where Kais was almost corrupted, but was saved by the Marines he'd allied with. The Warmaster 03:40, 22 June 2013 (CEST)
Black Pariah
I was just reading this page and saw that, under the Black Pariah section, it said, "It is unknown if this Black Pariah was the product of a fluke birth, or the tamperings of Clade Culexus, but regardless he was able to turn a target's psionic force back upon itself, manifesting the target's own power to destroy the target, the ultimate counter-psyker." Having read Nemesis, I know the book does describe the process in which the Black Pariah was created. I will have to find the exact passage to provide the correct process, however I do remember the Black Pariah was created by Erebus and that the process involved binding a daemon to the flesh of a pariah, and that it was a process conducted in secret by Erebus. I will find the exact section in the book ASAP and update the entry with the correct information.--8th Penal Regiment 06:38, 30 July 2013 (CEST)
- He actually was an experiment of Clade Culexus. The Word Bearers boarded the Black Ship he was held prisoner in and when he killed a Word Bearers-Librarian using his power, that's when Erebus decided to "modify" him.
- Be careful, Nemesis does a horrible job at describing blanks: The aura of the Culexus-assassin Iota somehow evaporates water in the vicinity and she can read the minds of her victims... That doesn't match any other sources. --DetlefK 12:45, 30 July 2013 (CEST)
