Talk:Golgotha
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Dar Laq
Dar Laq seems to actually be a Necron Tomb, not the ruins of a minor xenos species. Commisar Gegnillum 19:31, 29 June 2011 (CEST)
- Evidence? I'm not saying you're incorrect, I'm curious, especially how that would tie into the Squats thing.--Mob 19:47, 29 June 2011 (CEST)
- Its fine, my main evidence is a scene where Bergen sees a giant metalic structure, and thinks to himself that it looked like one of the Cadian Pylons. Also, note the architectural style of the buildings of Dar Laq(most of them resemble Necron buildings), the hovering pyramidial structure(inactive Monolith?), and the description of the metal used to build them(shimmering-just like the description given to living metal). I can look back at the book and find the exact descriptions, if you want. Commisar Gegnillum 19:58, 29 June 2011 (CEST)
- Ha, no I believe you. Tho we'll need the page numbers eventually, for adding the info to the page. And what you say sounds straightforwardly conclusive. I'm more just wandering how this affects the Golgothan fluff. I seem to remember statues of Squats outside Dar Laq, I guess they could be warnings? And clockwork mechanisms inside it. Eh. The old White Dwarf with the actual Squats/Orks Golgothan battle report could be doing with being found for this page, as I fear we'll have to do another Notes section at some point.--Mob 20:54, 29 June 2011 (CEST)
- Although this is major speculation, I think you are correct; the Squats at one point might have erected those statues as a warning. We all know how they like technology/engineering, plus the fact that the tomb seems (quite oddly) abandoned, so it is not unlikely that the Squats might have visted there in the past. The other explanation for those statues(considering the removal of Squats from official GW fluff) is that the Necrontyr might have built them as a way of praising the C'tan they worshiped. Oh and as for page numbers, the Dar Laq sequence is from pages 286-308 in my Hammer of The Emperor Omnibus. The pylon specifically is on page 287. Commisar Gegnillum 22:26, 29 June 2011 (CEST)
- Ha, no I believe you. Tho we'll need the page numbers eventually, for adding the info to the page. And what you say sounds straightforwardly conclusive. I'm more just wandering how this affects the Golgothan fluff. I seem to remember statues of Squats outside Dar Laq, I guess they could be warnings? And clockwork mechanisms inside it. Eh. The old White Dwarf with the actual Squats/Orks Golgothan battle report could be doing with being found for this page, as I fear we'll have to do another Notes section at some point.--Mob 20:54, 29 June 2011 (CEST)
- Its fine, my main evidence is a scene where Bergen sees a giant metalic structure, and thinks to himself that it looked like one of the Cadian Pylons. Also, note the architectural style of the buildings of Dar Laq(most of them resemble Necron buildings), the hovering pyramidial structure(inactive Monolith?), and the description of the metal used to build them(shimmering-just like the description given to living metal). I can look back at the book and find the exact descriptions, if you want. Commisar Gegnillum 19:58, 29 June 2011 (CEST)
- Those are interesting talking points, but where the article is concerned I guess it doesn't matter. This entire chunk of fluff originated from that Squats/Orks battle report and the statues are clearly a reference to them; that's about all we can say on that, though I suppose Dar Laq is by nature similar to Khazad-dum. What I would question is stating things in the main body of the article that the source doesn't, for example, does it actually say in the book that Dar Laq is possibly Necron, or is that a reader conclusion drawn from the evidence above? If it's the former, cool. If it's the latter, it should go in the Notes section IMHO.--Mob 00:02, 30 June 2011 (CEST)
- Bergen likening some specific structures to the Cadian Pylons would probably be the only reference to the Necrons that I recall reading; other than that, it is pretty much left up to the reader to connect the dots using Bergen's thought. Commisar Gegnillum 03:11, 30 June 2011 (CEST)