Talk:Kakophoni

Should this article remain separated from Noise Marines ? This could go into the History section of the Noise Marines articles. --Siegfriedfr (talk) 19:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

My view is that we should strive for most things to have its own article if there is enough information for it and only solely use it as a part of larger articles if there is a lack of information. We can instead link from the larger articles if the other smaller articles are relevant. --Librariusfunk (talk) 19:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Given that “caster of runes” (essentially just rune priest) gets its own article now I can see no reason why noise marines and kakophini should be combined. HH units have a lot of modern parallels but still retain their own articles Harriticus (talk) 23:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

There is no single Caster of Runes article by the way. Interesting that you would defend separate articles in this instance (Noise Marine and Kakophoni), and not create an article in another (Rune Priest and Caster of Runes), even tho "they are the same". That tells me that there are no defined rules, and habits are followed, or not, depending on the day's mood, which create inconsistencies all over the lexicanum. Anyway, at the end of the day, i also think that having separate articles between HH/40k is a better thing, so end of discussion for me. --Siegfriedfr (talk) 06:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

complaining aside, I don't get why you support separating Heresy-era Rune Priests from present ones (not that I care much either way, I just don't want less content and that makes more content if anything) but think Heresy-era Noise Marines and present ones should be merged. However my actual opinion is if anything both should stay separate. In the future if you wish to avoid editing conflicts with me, simply think if what you're doing will increase or decrease content on the overall wiki as well as on the individual page. If it's the latter I'm likely to take issue with it, and it's why I didn't object to your Priests of Fenris page.Harriticus (talk) 06:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

If I may chime in: In the Fabius Bile trilogy, it is actually stated that the Kakophoni differ from modern-day Noise Marines. Bile considers the Kakophoni to be superior in various ways, with the modern Noise Marines being watered-down versions. Essentially, it is commented that all Kakophoni are Noise Marines, but not all Noise Marines are Kakophoni. Whether this difference justifies two articles is a different matter, though. AdeptusExtra11 (talk) 08:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Well, this is obviously something someone should add in. I do not have the source readily available. Harriticus (talk) 08:26, 18 December 2024 (UTC)