Talk:Venom

Harlequin Vehicle

I noticed the article mentions Harlequins using the Venom. However, I'm not so sure this is actually the same vehicle discussed in the rest of the article. The source given for Harlequin use is the PDF army list, which originally came from the old Citadel Journal. I actually have a copy of this, and it mentions that the "Venom" used by Harlequins is a derivation of the CRAFTWORLDER Vyper (including an image to that effect), not any Dark Eldar vehicle. It was also published ~2000 (3rd edition), when as best I can tell the Dark Eldar "Venom" didn't come into being until ~2008 (5th edition). The difference in appearance between the "Venoms" could be chalked up to model refresh, but given that (as far as I know) Dark Eldar couldn't use the 3e "Venom" and no source mentions Harlequins using the 5e+ "Venom" (UPDATE: Not quite true; see below), I'm inclined to think they're separate vehicles that GW accidentally named the same. Before I make any big edits, though, I have a couple questions: A) do you ask think I'm right about this? If so, then B) would this be better addressed by a new "Venom (Harlequin)" page or a "Trivia" section on this entry? --PeeterEgonMomus (talk) 08:30, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

UPDATE: I was looking through the old Apocalypse War Zone: Valedor supplement, and it actually does seem to mention Harlequins in Venoms, which muddies the above somewhat (the supplement was from 2014, well after the 5e Venom release). --PeeterEgonMomus (talk) 06:32, 15 December 2021 (UTC)